In Your Quiver
Do You Know What Underfoot Measurement Is Best For Your Kind Of Skiing?
One of the hardest questions a seasoned skier has to answer is when someone new to skiing or maybe even a friend says, “So what kind of ski should I be on this year?” Really a tough question to answer without delving into particulars like, athleticism, age, what kind of snow, what trails do you like, front side, back side? There are so many choices today based on so many factors. So let me try to make this as simple as possible for the new skier as well as the veteran.
Most of us veterans are using skis that are significantly shorter than the ones we used to use. In the old days, skis anywhere from a 185 cm to 210 cm in length were used with little or no side cut resulting in significant vertical and rotational movement to execute a turn. Today, the skis are much shorter, generally ranging from 152 to 185 cm. The shape of the skis make it easier to turn—wider at the tip and tail and narrower under foot— which, when placed on edge and pressure is applied, results in an effortless turn. We don’t have to work those 200 plus cm skis like the old days. But what about the nuances of width under foot? Where you want to ski and what kind of snow conditions will determine what width underfoot measurement is good. And that’s measured in millimeters and not centimeters like ski length.
Typically a front side ski to be used on groomers or hard pack will range under 85 mm width under foot, in most cases. Race skis have a slimmer profile but for the most part, anything under 85 mm is considered a “front side” ski and encourages a carved turn on groomed or hard pack snow. There is a lot of interest these days in these profiles because of the lack of early and late snow due to global warming. Snowmaking is essential, and when these man-made, groomed, hard pack conditions exist, a frontside ski is optimal.
Conversely, anything over 88 mm under foot is moving into the all mountain range and can be used for most terrain. Also, 95 mm and above are a must to include in your quiver if you ski out west and have varying conditions. When you get over 100 mm, you are getting into the powder or loose snow area. Typically, 107mm and up is considered “big mountain” or powder skis. These skis can perform on groomed snow but the float is optimal for loose snow or powder in the wider under foot measurements.
But what about rocker, early rise, etc? We all have seen the guy who has rockered skis (tips and tails with an upturn) making turns on hard pack with minimal contact with the snow underfoot. We don’t want to be that guy. Wrong tool for the wrong conditions. Rockers are used to facilitate the float needed to ski powder or loose snow. You need surface area to ride the groomers, and rockers are not optimal. However, the early rise tips can facilitate a turn in powder as well as make entry into a groomed turn better. Personally, I see the advantage of an early rise ski for most skiing conditions. Early rise referring to a slight upturn to the tip of the ski.
So, it probably makes sense for most skiers to have a quiver of skis for different conditions. A new skier should really think about what conditions he or she will ski and get one pair based on those conditions. A good ski shop can help in the selection. Veterans should have that front side ski, an all-mountain ski, and a loose snow or powder ski. I have a pair of 107 under foot for loose or powder, but my 88 mm skis under foot are ideal in a lot of conditions. I personally think that measurement (88mm) is the optimal one for most conditions.
Be honest with yourself when you are selecting skis. Think about your physical condition, where you like to ski, and the snow conditions that are optimal for you. Skiing should be fun and not be like work. The new equipment makes that happen if you are careful to select the right tools for the quiver.
This Week In SeniorsSkiing.com (Oct. 12)
Warren Miller Film Tour, Other Things To Do Series Starts, Flat Light Polka.
It is October and our natural, built-in annual calendar says it’s time for a Warren Miller flick to remind us how graceful, funny, and exhilarating snow sports can be. As long as we can remember, the official pre-start of the snow season has been the viewing of one of Warren’s new films. Last January, we lost Warren, but his films live on. Below, you’ll find a sample of some Old School footage.
And the Warren Miller Film Tour, kicking off on Oct. 12, is coming to a theatre near you! Sponsored by Volkswagen and many others, you can catch the Face of Winter in your neighborhood. Click here for details.
Here’s the trailer for Face of Winter. Enjoy.
This Week
We’re starting a short series from correspondent Yvette Cardozo who will be telling us about other things to do in the winter besides slide down mountains or trails. This week, she describes an ice fishing outing around Sun Peaks Resort in British Columbia. If you or your spouse need a diversion or a step down from your usual winter routine, some of these alternatives might be fun. Gets you outdoors and doing positive things. That’s the point, right?
We also hear from correspondent Jan Brunvand who not only advises us to watch out for dreaded flat light conditions, but also gives us a little ditty he wrote called “The Flat Light Polka”. Flat light can really ruin a day’s outing, so, humor aside, it is a hazard we can be mindful of, especially at the beginning of the season when all things are tentative.
As we mentioned last week, getting ready for the season should be your prime objective, conditioning-wise. this time of year. We’ve been asked to point to some exercises that might be useful for senior folks. A couple of years ago, we did a neat series of progressive exercises featuring Rick Silverman, a physical therapist and professional exercise consultant. You can find the progressive, three-part series by clicking on these links: Easy Starters, Up A Notch, and Challenge Yourself. As with all new and demanding physical activities, you should consult with your health care professional if you have any doubts or questions.
New York Gathering
One more reminder, we are having a gathering of folks in NYC on Nov. 14. We’ll have some raffle items, some give-aways, and a chance to meet other senior snow sport enthusiasts. Come on down.
Finally, please remember, there are more of us every day, and we aren’t going away. Tell your friends about us and thanks for reading SeniorsSkiing.com
Short Swings!
I rode a chair last season with a couple who got upset when they saw a dead porcupine on the trail below. They “knew” the animal from skiing there for several months. It looked like it had been attacked.

I’ve seen a lot of animals while skiing over the years. Nothing larger than the moose who frequented part of The Canyons. I’m confident that even with Vail’s acquisition of that wonderful area (now part of Park City), the herd still hangs there, occasionally moseying out on a trail .
Deer Valley had many weasels and, if I have it right, ermine. The critters are long hot dogs making a slinky wave as they run across trails. I had to swerve more than once to avoid trail-kill.
The Catskill and Adirondack areas had occasional deer and lots of porcupines. I remember one tree where the chair passed a porky perched there most of the season.
Rabbits, squirrels, chipmunks, birds of all persuasions, an occasional raccoon. They appear on slope and trail. More often it’s their tracks, but look, and you’ll see them.
And dogs, especially those trained for avalanche rescues. Bless them for their excellent skills and stellar service.
Among the most curious creatures encountered to date are Snowbird‘s and Alta‘s leopard and zebra. They’re a couple who frequent the place and everything they wear — cape to boot — is themed accordingly. He’s the leopard. I’ve bumped into him, solo, a few times on the tram or in the lot and told him how much I enjoy his outfit. His response is always the same: “You ought to see my wife. She’s a zebra. I’m always chasing her down.”
SeniorsSkiing Fifth Anniversary Party!!
5:00 – 8:00PM, Wednesday, November 14, Manhattan.

We’d love you to be there, meet other senior skiers, win cool raffle prizes and help us celebrate our fifth. Prizes and SWAG from Apex Boots, 70+ Ski Club, Masterfit, Orsden Parkas, Buffalo Wool Company, Solitude, Powder Mountain, DeBooter, Bootster, GearBeast (the perfect skier’s cellphone carrier), International Skiing History Association, and others. We’ll provide the nibbles. Open bar. If you plan to attend, please RSVP to jon@seniorsskiing.com. Location: E’s Bar (Rumpus Room), 511 Amsterdam Ave. (bet 84th and 85th Streets), Manhattan.
Snowing Across the West!!!!
The resorts and state ski associations are reporting snowfall, snowmaking, and opening dates. A few examples: Wolf Creek in southwest Colorado got 20″ and will have limited skiing this weekend. The Utah resorts received more than a foot of snow. One of them, Snowbasin, got its first big dump in September! Opening days at the Utah areas range from November 21 to December 21.
Warren Miller, Posthumously
Face of Winter is this season’s Warren Miller film, the first since his passing earlier this year. Click here to find when it will be playing near you and to purchase tickets.
Squaw Valley Extremes
For six minutes of pure skiing fun, watch Drop Everything, a video of the recent history of extreme skiing in Squaw Valley. Click on the name to get you there.
New Ski Utah Magazine
Ski Utah outdid itself with this new, free annual magazine. There 100+ pages. Available in print and digital editions. Not your typical ski industry promotional fare. There’s a page dedicated to the wisdom of George Jedenoff, who celebrated his 100th birthday last July with several runs at Snowbird. Ski Utah is essential reading for everyone from regulars to those planning their first visit. To order a copy or send one to a friend click here.
Skiing History Night
If you’re in the New York area, International Skiing History Association is hosting a free pizza/wine/beer Skiing History Night at Hickory & Tweed (410 Main Street, Armonk). 6:30-9:00 PM, Monday, October 15. Highlight of the evening: ISHA’s Jeff Blumenfeld will present how skiing has been portrayed on TV over the decades. RSVP requested: kathleen@skiinghistory.org.
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